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[ The harsh methods of her world don't immediately elicit shock: there're plenty of folks back home that don't see a problem with that line of thinking, and plenty that act on it under the guise of the greater good, secure in their belief that they're right.
It's the second half of her solution that seems to make his blood run cold, his heels digging in. ]
( We're not doing that to him. ) [ Not as a last resort, not for the greater good. He won't force or manipulate anyone down the Nest's rabbit hole. ]
( Guiding's not gonna work. Ren thinks he knows better than all of us. If the worst case scenario happens again, we can take him out as a group, but otherwise the guy's not gonna listen to anyone he doesn't respect. ) [ Which is basically everyone in the Nest. ]
( How much do you trust Catheway? )
[ His own thoughts seem to waver. ]
It's the second half of her solution that seems to make his blood run cold, his heels digging in. ]
( We're not doing that to him. ) [ Not as a last resort, not for the greater good. He won't force or manipulate anyone down the Nest's rabbit hole. ]
( Guiding's not gonna work. Ren thinks he knows better than all of us. If the worst case scenario happens again, we can take him out as a group, but otherwise the guy's not gonna listen to anyone he doesn't respect. ) [ Which is basically everyone in the Nest. ]
( How much do you trust Catheway? )
[ His own thoughts seem to waver. ]
( You're wrong. I think I know better than everyone else. He's dependent on the opinion of a few, and thinks that he's been wise in his decisions. It may seem like arrogance, but it's dependence. He may fall into the Nest with or without our coaxing. )
[She's self-aware, at least. Does that mean she'll be humble? No, but it does mean that she considers her words and actions before she says them, and has done what she can to adequately ensure that they are right, at least. Lexa has her doubts, but she has been trained and trained and trained to act with a conviction that makes it seem as if they don't exist.
Besides, as much as she can seem inflexible, she can change according to a situation, and adapt depending on what is happening. As long as they are set in the right place from the beginning, changes can be made.]
( You ask about Cathaway because you know that he's dependent upon her. I don't trust any of the older Hosts. If you're reluctant to give Ren to the Nest, then you can understand why. There are too many holes in our situation with the years that Carata and others claim are behind it. We can't risk trusting those who have been there and have let it happen this way. ) ["Let" being a very, very light term.
She isn't even openly asking for defiance. But Lexa finds it easier to not trust with how little it adds up for her, but she knows that she has to keep an open mind. She accepted that there were always enemies, always people to attack, always people saved. Cathaway had offered her that, and she could see the truth of it.
But there are other truths that seem as if they are obscured by acceptance. Lexa does not come from a very accepting culture.]
[She's self-aware, at least. Does that mean she'll be humble? No, but it does mean that she considers her words and actions before she says them, and has done what she can to adequately ensure that they are right, at least. Lexa has her doubts, but she has been trained and trained and trained to act with a conviction that makes it seem as if they don't exist.
Besides, as much as she can seem inflexible, she can change according to a situation, and adapt depending on what is happening. As long as they are set in the right place from the beginning, changes can be made.]
( You ask about Cathaway because you know that he's dependent upon her. I don't trust any of the older Hosts. If you're reluctant to give Ren to the Nest, then you can understand why. There are too many holes in our situation with the years that Carata and others claim are behind it. We can't risk trusting those who have been there and have let it happen this way. ) ["Let" being a very, very light term.
She isn't even openly asking for defiance. But Lexa finds it easier to not trust with how little it adds up for her, but she knows that she has to keep an open mind. She accepted that there were always enemies, always people to attack, always people saved. Cathaway had offered her that, and she could see the truth of it.
But there are other truths that seem as if they are obscured by acceptance. Lexa does not come from a very accepting culture.]
[ You're wrong grates, just a bit (more than a bit). He's the one stuck with Ren as a broodmate.
But then, it's not like Steve goes around proclaiming he understands the intricacies of Ren's inner workings. Fact is, he doesn't often understand Ren's motives or decisions. He stews for another few seconds in those thoughts, eventually focusing on the second half of what she says: about Catheway and Carata and whoever else is out there like them. He doesn't mistrust them individually, not all the time, but it remains that there's a similar sense of dislike toward the way the Nest operates - the lack of transparency. Time hasn't done much to fix that. ]
( Letting him fall down that hole means giving him more power. ) [ And leaves him susceptible to some force that they don't completely understand, that neither of them trust.
Frustration begins to build again. ] ( Look, you're right. He's not stable. But he just lost someone, and he wasn't the only one making bad decisions. ) [ The Darkling proved he has some questionable ideas about what's right and wrong too. ] ( We aren't a team. )
[ Not one that's got a great record so far, anyway. ]
But then, it's not like Steve goes around proclaiming he understands the intricacies of Ren's inner workings. Fact is, he doesn't often understand Ren's motives or decisions. He stews for another few seconds in those thoughts, eventually focusing on the second half of what she says: about Catheway and Carata and whoever else is out there like them. He doesn't mistrust them individually, not all the time, but it remains that there's a similar sense of dislike toward the way the Nest operates - the lack of transparency. Time hasn't done much to fix that. ]
( Letting him fall down that hole means giving him more power. ) [ And leaves him susceptible to some force that they don't completely understand, that neither of them trust.
Frustration begins to build again. ] ( Look, you're right. He's not stable. But he just lost someone, and he wasn't the only one making bad decisions. ) [ The Darkling proved he has some questionable ideas about what's right and wrong too. ] ( We aren't a team. )
[ Not one that's got a great record so far, anyway. ]
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( We're not. ) [And a happy situation where they all go in believing that teamwork is the key is not what Lexa wants. Parker had wrongly believed that of her, and it made communication between them ... impossible, to say the least.]
( A fairer view of the Nest is that it offers us the freedom we want without any push in any direction. The problem is that it's made the Nest very poor at what it sets out to do. I'm hoping that we can all take initiative, with or without a unified identity, to function better to complete missions. )
[To bring it about, Lexa has been acting.]
( But we won't function without seeing things for what they are. Ren should not have attached to Cathaway so quickly. He views her as everything to him. His instability is only emphasized right now.
The other decisions will need to be assessed on their own merit. ) [She intends to do that, because still: what the hell, the Darkling.]
( A fairer view of the Nest is that it offers us the freedom we want without any push in any direction. The problem is that it's made the Nest very poor at what it sets out to do. I'm hoping that we can all take initiative, with or without a unified identity, to function better to complete missions. )
[To bring it about, Lexa has been acting.]
( But we won't function without seeing things for what they are. Ren should not have attached to Cathaway so quickly. He views her as everything to him. His instability is only emphasized right now.
The other decisions will need to be assessed on their own merit. ) [She intends to do that, because still: what the hell, the Darkling.]
( Assessed how? And by who? )
[ She said it herself, they've all got the freedom to do what they want with little to no consequences. That works when it works, and when it doesn't - ]
[ She said it herself, they've all got the freedom to do what they want with little to no consequences. That works when it works, and when it doesn't - ]
( Yeah, I do. ) [ a flicker of caution-concern ] ( Why? )
( He used to spend a lot of time down in Subspace. )
[ that's an understatement ]
( Why? )
[ that's an understatement ]
( Why? )
[ oh ]
( Maybe. Easier if you don't have a criminal record - security was already doing extra patrols down there after the first bombing. )
( Maybe. Easier if you don't have a criminal record - security was already doing extra patrols down there after the first bombing. )
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( As long as that means giving everyone a fair shake, you won't get any argument from me. )
[ He's noticing that Ilde keeps coming up. ]
[ He's noticing that Ilde keeps coming up. ]
[Well, she's made the biggest mistake so far that got someone killed, and it led to her deepened grudge against Prince (which informs all of her other opinions). Whoops.]
( I expect us to keep each other accountable. And do our best to prevent future mistakes. Not everyone is prepared for this. )
[To Ilde's credit, she did decide she had to try a different tack on things. Lexa gives her that much credit, but this is the same mindset she had when speaking to her before. Now, they just need to somehow get Ren on board (hah) and the Darkling (Lexa thinks this more likely).]
( I expect us to keep each other accountable. And do our best to prevent future mistakes. Not everyone is prepared for this. )
[To Ilde's credit, she did decide she had to try a different tack on things. Lexa gives her that much credit, but this is the same mindset she had when speaking to her before. Now, they just need to somehow get Ren on board (hah) and the Darkling (Lexa thinks this more likely).]
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( Can't argue with that either. ) [ Any of it. But, to a larger degree than maybe Lexa does right now, he believes that most everyone's capable of figuring out how to manage.
Even Ren, maybe.
In all the universes pigs gotta fly somewhere, right? ]
Even Ren, maybe.
In all the universes pigs gotta fly somewhere, right? ]
[ The touch to his shoulder surprises him, he holds Sam's gaze for a moment before looking away to stare at some space on the wall. The skin of his neck turns a bit red, mouth twisting into a faint, self-deprecating smile. Please stop embarrassing him, dad. Let's talk about the other problem instead - ]
So what do we do now? [ With Ren. ]
So what do we do now? [ With Ren. ]
[ With a recognizable face she wouldn't be able to hide in one spot for long. ]
( Better that we stick together here. ) [ He agrees with that. ]
( Better that we stick together here. ) [ He agrees with that. ]
[ hahahah security ]
( I'll see about going with them. )
[ Ilde and Mara. He doesn't know much about the latter, but if Ilde thinks the lady knows what she's doing, then he's not going to question her judgment.
(anyone but ren works for him) ]
( I'll see about going with them. )
[ Ilde and Mara. He doesn't know much about the latter, but if Ilde thinks the lady knows what she's doing, then he's not going to question her judgment.
(anyone but ren works for him) ]
[ He'd felt a little guilty as soon as Steve broke contact with him the night before, but he wasn't gonna chase after him. It was a lot, even without the incredible weirdness of the future shit. And Sam knows what it's like to need some time to process, get your thoughts in order.
That doesn't mean he isn't itching to check in with Steve, though, especially when he's pretty sure that things aren't fine.
So he waits until the next morning, but then he reaches out across the mental link to Steve, gently nudging to get his attention. ]
( Hey, man, you got a minute? )
That doesn't mean he isn't itching to check in with Steve, though, especially when he's pretty sure that things aren't fine.
So he waits until the next morning, but then he reaches out across the mental link to Steve, gently nudging to get his attention. ]
( Hey, man, you got a minute? )
[ His attention is easy to draw. ]
( Yeah, sure - ) [ A pause, and something like an exhale. ] ( If it's about what we were talking about yesterday - I should've pulled Barton aside if I had questions. )
[ Having that kind of conversation in brain space hadn't been a great idea. Not just what he'd said to Barton, but what Sam had said to him. When he talked about trust. ]
( Yeah, sure - ) [ A pause, and something like an exhale. ] ( If it's about what we were talking about yesterday - I should've pulled Barton aside if I had questions. )
[ Having that kind of conversation in brain space hadn't been a great idea. Not just what he'd said to Barton, but what Sam had said to him. When he talked about trust. ]
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[ It doesn't surprise him at all that Steve knows exactly what he'd wanted to talk about, and that exhale is echoed. ]
( I should have pulled you aside, too. I wanted to apologize; I shouldn't have dropped all that on you. ) [ And this probably isn't the kind of conversation they should have mentally, either, especially since Sam isn't a hundred percent sure on what he wants to say. ] ( Can we talk, face to face? )
( I should have pulled you aside, too. I wanted to apologize; I shouldn't have dropped all that on you. ) [ And this probably isn't the kind of conversation they should have mentally, either, especially since Sam isn't a hundred percent sure on what he wants to say. ] ( Can we talk, face to face? )
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